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Old 06-26-2007, 05:11 AM
pantagruel pantagruel is offline
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Default DO YOU LIKE HEALTH INSURANCE THE WAY IT IS ? Are you against Universal Health Ins.?

If you feel that the Govt. will just screw it up,and that 'free' health care will make the country socialist.
How's that 'free' fire care doin' for ya?
How's that 'free' police care workin' out?
What about your 'free' roads and hi-ways?
Taxes are not socialism !
Taxes being used for the COMMON GOOD are the true meaning of Democracy ! We all benifit from all the taxes used to make this a strong nation ! Pay your taxes or leave !
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WOULD YOU PAY 600.00 YEARLY for UNI.CARE?


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Old 06-26-2007, 05:18 AM
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there are millions (and i'm not talking about illegals) without health insurance. I haven't looked into universal health insurance, but heard a little about it. Sounds like a good point that you are making.
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:20 AM
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I generally do not trust insurance givers. But I have to take insurance from them anyway and tolerate their innumerable minus points. Who in the world gives you free service without having an ulterior ill-motive?!!
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:22 AM
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I want America to get universal health care. Whether its one payer with the present insurance companies, or phased in "socialism" like in England or Sweden is fine with me, but this present system is dysfunctional, it is broken, it absorbs 40 % of every health care dollar on paper work, its absurd. It is hurting the rest of our economy--the cost of health coverage for workers adds over $1,100 to the cost of every car produced in the US but only $100 for cars produced in Japan or Canada; our present system is bankrupting our industry and putting some of our most productive companies out of business. It MUST be changed.
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:48 AM
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OK, I have no idea what unicare is.

But I do know that "government housing" isn't where I want to live. And I know that our CURRENT government health care programs - medicaid and medicare - spend $.85 on the dollar in administration, which makes it the MOST expensive health care for the least coverage that there is.

Anything government does is going to cost more, be less effecient, and STILL not get the job done fully. That's just the way it is.

Health care is ok right now.

There's no such thing as "free" anything. Only people who don't work (aka, freeloaders) don't pay taxes for social security and medicare benefits - which are pretty damn high right now, if you ask me.

"Universal" health care in other countries doesn't cover everyone, either - if implemented here, it wouldn't cover the 26,000,000 illegal immigrants we have here. It doesn't cover non-citizens/subjects there. So how EXACTLY are you going to insure all the people of the world on the US Taxpayer's back?

You see people flocking to Canada for medical treatment? I think not! Those who can afford it (oh! elitism!) come to the US from ALL over the world, for prompt, quality medical care.

FWIW, I don't have "free" fire departments, health departments, roads, or highways. I pay property taxes - and a VERY healthy chunck of property tax - to contribute towards them. AND, they aren't PREVENTATIVE services, they are "corrective after the fact" services. My dog and my Baretta are better crime control in my house, than the police. I trust them both to protect me better than waiting 2 hours for HPD to show up.

You're right, taxes themselves aren't socialism. Taking money in the form of taxes from the individual, to spend it on the collective, THAT is socialism. AND IT DOESN'T WORK, IN THE LONG RUN. These national health care systems are imploding - and if you don't see that (even with 75% income tax), then it's because your eyes are closed.
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