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Old 11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
sitizenxxx sitizenxxx is offline
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Default so if you have health Insurance and I don't... I'm a lazy Liberal and you are a

righteous Christian ?????????? amazing the way people draw lines in here, I just answered a question and went back to read the other answers and across the board the right side of the field dispelled, cat called and heckled the notion of universal health care... because most of them had existing insurance.
Isn't it Basic Human rights to be able to have health care?, and what about the 40 million plus people without it? Most of them working but not earning enough to pay for it themselves?.. people on welfare already have medicare and medicade, the people without insurance are the people that made to much to qualify for state or federal assistance.. don't you care about other hard working Americans and their families all you good Christians ?
a couple of the answerers on previous questions had gone into long tirades about faith, their faith that is..


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Old 11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
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Health care can never be a basic human right. Basic human rights are something we are born with; that originate from the individual. Like the right to speak freely, to adequately defend yourself from harm, to practice the religion of your choosing, etc. Governments cannot give rights; they can only decide not to take them away...

Health care requires the presence of highly trained professionals willing to exchange their services for what they consider adequate compensation. If the compensation is not adequate they will provide substandard services, move somewhere where adequate compensation is available, or cease to provide these services altogether. When thinking about what passes for a "basic human right" it is helpful to think of the freedoms exercised by prehistoric humans, before modern technology and governments were around to improve standards of living and "civilize" them to make society possible. As a developed and modern society we have decided that it is acceptable to collectively give-up part of our right to the fruits of our labor in exchange for improvements for the common good. Such as, interstate highway systems, armed forces, education, fire protection, and domestic security, but none of these can be considered "basic human rights" because, like health care, they require the willing participation of specialized individuals.

We may well decide that we are willing to further give-up our rights to the fruits of our labors for partial or full health care guarantees, but make no mistake, there will be a net-loss in rights. We better be very sure of the effects our decisions will have on quality of service and any other long-term unintended consequences.

Oh, and by the way, religion has no place in this discussion.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
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You drew that line not me. I say if I have insurance and you don't, that would make me more RESPONSIBLE than you. Religion has nothing to do with it, now laziness may, but responsibility is a much better conclusion.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
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the lines on yahoo are a joke. I live in a "red state" in the Bible Belt. One fourth of the people of this state do not have health insurance. I guarantee that they are not all lazy Liberals.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:19 AM
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I bought into the "lazy liberals" thing when i grew up in a conservative household. Then I got out into the real world and realized that poverty and poor circumstance have nothing to do with political ideology.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:29 AM
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All people have access to health care , you can' t be refused.

Well first of all only about 8 Million of those "40 Million" actual can't afford health insurance. The rest choose to spend their money on other things because for young people health insurance is a bad use of money.

The US is about Individualism not "society above individuals"
and it makes me sick to my stomach that people want a nanny state to take care of them from cradle to grave!
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:29 AM
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Why in the world are you making this a conservative Christian thing???? You are just as labeling! I feel bad for these people but I've had some pretty low paying jobs that has had excellent insurance plans. People need to find insurance! They can't afford to be without it and if it means sacrificing then so be it. I can't afford to pay out any more in taxes. Most medical facilities have their own programs if needed.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:30 AM
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I feel your pain. It sickens me that American's feel this way about other American's, and these same people seem to care more about freeing and liberating another country before they put the welfare of their own neighbor first. Talk about being UnAmerican!

I asked a question about healthcare 20 minutes ago and the responses make me sick to my stomach.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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People like to draw lines in the sand. Me I try hard not to generalize.

I have health insurance because I earned it and I pay for it. I know other people who have jobs and can afford health care but decide against it because they would rather spend the money on something else.

I suppose to some a new car every 2 years is more important, but then hey, they don't plan on needing health care; anyway they'll never get sick.

And you know I really have no clue what their politics are. We were usually too busy working to talk about it.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:32 AM
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How does religion play here?
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