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Old 10-26-2007, 02:39 AM
jhette jhette is offline
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Default what is wrong with guaranteed health insurance for every american?

the nasty people who just want to be rude and insult people -- go away, or let's arrange a meeting place and i'll see u there

those who are good at diatribes, please tell me

i think this is something that is christian and moral and kind and good, so i don't get those who are against it.


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Old 10-26-2007, 02:39 AM
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People that work have health insurance if they choose, some people choose not to have health insurance.

Some people would rather have all those trendy things that they don't really need, so they trump their need for health insurance.

Why should I pay for health insurance for someone who is not willing to work.

Granted their are some people who can't work because of serious health issues.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:44 AM
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Who's going to foot the bill? The rich & the beurocrats will get the timely/quality care & the rest of us will go down to an even lower level than the present HMO level & cost will rise.
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:52 AM
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The problem is that not every American is willing to work for it, some would rather sponge off the government.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:04 AM
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You and those who agree with you can go ahead and pay for it then, OK? See, no diatribe.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:08 AM
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Plenty of things wrong with it. In order to accomplish a government health care program you need to steal money from others to pay for it. The government has proven time and again to be incompetent when managing social programs. Those who work hard to provide for their own health care will have their options limited in order to placate those who have no desire to provide for themselves. One of the reasons the US has some of the finest health care facilities and practitioners in the world is because there is a monetary incentive for doctors to perform and discover new and highly effective treatments. Once health care is in the governments hands this monetary incentive will disappear (just as it did for vaccinations once the gov't began providing them). As a result innovation in the health care field will be drastically deterred.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:08 AM
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Your Imaginary friend jesus aside, nothing. Many would like to argue that it would create a system of substandard care. Or that people would abuse it because it is free. But look at our educational system. There still exists a private education system that is thriving. People continue to pay for a service despite the fact that they could consume a comparable service for free. Furthermore, some public schools offer superior educations while others are indeed substandard. This has more to do with socio-economic factors than anything.

So if we can have an education system that allows for the public to utilize or not utilize. That provides services to those who want them, why couldn't we have the same for health care. The government could offer a baseline of acute care and preventative services. People who could afford it would still have premium insurance and providers.

I just don't understand the arguments of socialism and abuse of the system. Like people would just go to the doctor because its free. I mean we buy bottles of water even though there are free alternatives. And we have an educational system that does not make us socialist. As long as there are health care choices and they are not mandated, much like the educational system, why not.

As far as the who is going to pay for it question. c'mon. Since when are we counting pennies. Who is paying for the medicare drug program? We are. Who is paying for the wars? We are.

The bottom line is, isn't our collective health something that should be prioritized? We are the richest nation on the planet. Don't we have a moral obligation to provide access to health services? People should not be dying in this country because of an inability to access care.

That simple. It is important. It is an ethical imperative and it needs to be prioritized above other things that we are expending enormous amounts of money and resources on.
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:18 AM
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...and "who" is going to pay for it...? You...?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:39 AM
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Insurance corporations might start to lower their rates? You are against that?

Many Insurance CEO might not have jobs?
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:44 AM
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Good theory, but who is going to pay for it? I have enough problems paying my own bills and taxes that I don't have enough to share with everyone. How come a person can't be responsible for their own needs? Why does this need to fall onto the state? Who made the state my mother?
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