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Old 06-12-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default For those who dislike Michael Moore, are you saying we should do nothing about...

...health insurance co. that..? that make profits by purposely denying health care?


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Old 06-12-2007, 07:26 PM
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Anyone who is being denied healthcare by their provider needs to do something about it. We cannot police every insurance comapny and constantly monitor it records.

When I was diagnosed and needed surgery, my provider tried saying that this was a pre-existing condition. I went to my doctor both my OBGYN and my GP and got statements that this was indeed by definition NOT a pre-existing condition. i did not just give up. Of course most companies are going to not want to just pay for everything, we have to stand up and take some responsibility and sometimes that means doing a little leg work. In the end I got my surgery, Insurance covered most of it.

I also let my provider know that by not having the surgery, there would probably be a lengthy sessions of chemo and radiation in the future.
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:40 PM
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I think that we should have John Edwards sue the "Rainmakers"

FYI: The Rainmakers is a book by John Grisham, where a medical insurance company refused to pay for treatment and a youth died.

The definition of an unethical business practice, is to promise something which you cannot deliver. Thus the title, "The Rainmakers" as rainmakers always promise what they cannot deliver.
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:41 PM
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No, I'm saying we don't even acknowledge Michael Moore, what a useless piece of SH**T!
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:48 PM
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Who exactly do you know has been "denied heath care"?
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:48 PM
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I hate Michael Moore and I really hate people that use him as a voice when he is nothing but a profiteer himself.

We need to fix the problems with the system and we can do that with much less expense and increased quality than going to a socialist solution. Bill Gates is putting together a group to study it. I sat down with a doctor and a man who runs a 500 bed facility and got their take on it. They were pretty interesting and enlightening.
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:49 PM
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I do not know the man, but his films are propaganda, not fact. He distorts the truth to fit his political views.
And healthcare and Michael Moore have nothing to do with each other.
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:49 PM
Laissez-Faire Guy Laissez-Faire Guy is offline
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There are 3 big problems with health care that are causing all this mess:

1. Everybody expects someone else to pay for their health care. It might be your employer, your insurer, the local or state gov't, Medicare, etc. This removes the market incentive for people to shop for price and alternatives, like they do for every other product or service they purchase.

2. Tort Reform. There needs to be serious nationwide tort reform for malpractice. People like John Edwards make millions off of the healthcare industry on trumped up charges, and then crusade about how the little guy can't afford health care. Lawsuits drive up prices, malpractice insurance, and add additional tests as defensive medicine.

3. Who says a doctor is the only person that can treat you for everything? There are a great many routine things that can be treated by people with far less training, at far lower cost. Those providers can send on the more difficult cases to the doctor they work with.

The sad thing is, you won't see any politicians proposal's to solve the health care problem, address any of these issues. All will try and shift the cost on to someone else.
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